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What's up, Kainers?! (/thread-5802.html)RE: What's up, Kainers?! - Ahzoh - 07-21-2016
The problem with the gun debate, and I can see both sides, is that the government is NOT EVEN ALLOWED to discuss guns, there is a moratorium on the discussion of guns. Furthermore, the government and various government organizations are not even allowed to study whether certain methods of gun control work or not. The NRA, of course, is partly responsible for this, but likely not entirely. But gun debates will be nothing more than speculation for as long as "the science of gun control" is banned.
(06-22-2016, 07:43 PM)Bounty Hunter Lani Wrote: A Pro-LGBT group in Phoenix with thousands of supporters endorsed Trump recently, and now they're being called traitors and many hateful things for their support of him-- by the "Tolerant" libtards!
Reminds me of blacks being called Oreos because they're Republican.
Double standards, double standards... why are they always the biggest when it comes to libtards?
Oh! And did you hear people are suing the company who made the gun that killed the people in Orlando?
As if the Republicans don't have the "biggest" double-standards. But wait, there are reasons: minorities, as a matter of history, are opposed and oppressed by the more conservative members of society, so of course they would be considered traitors for voting against their own interests by voting for a party that represents that conservative values.
Are y'all going to vote for the fascist known as Trump? Me, I'll vote for Hillary, I'm not entirely convinced this "crooked, lying, Killary" is anything more than a narrative, but even so, she could not destroy America any worse than Trump. I think a more moderate option is Gary Johnson.
RE: What's up, Kainers?! - Bounty Hunter Lani - 07-21-2016
Problem is, they try to discuss "GUNS" when the problem at the time isn't guns at all.
We've had plenty of debate on it, but when a guy runs over a hundred people, suddenly it's the guy who drove the truck that did it who is the problem, and not the truck itself.
But the guns? Oh, those are the evil things in the debate whenever THAT'S involved.
A guy grabs an axe and slashes at people? It's the guy, not the axe!
A madman gets a gun and tries to shoot people, but is shot down by a good guy with a gun, and that good guy is evil for doing so!
Those darn good guys with guns stopping massacres! How dare they!
I feel like you walked here straight from a Hillary speech, where her lies and distortions and "These are not the emails you are looking for" are working on you, Ahzoh, and I advise you to please research on who the slaveowners were, the segregationists were, and who freed the slaves.
It wasn't liberals that freed the slaves, and it wasn't conservatives who owned the slaves, and ordered the National Guard to keep Ruby Bridges from going to a desegregated school.
And why was abortion created, and by whom?
A liberal lady, to eliminate the black race, and the person Hillary looks up to as a role model.
Ignorance is not bliss, and calling someone a "Fascist" because you heard the buzzword at a Hillary rally and shielding yourself from the many controversies of Hillary's campaign is not smart. Make an educated decision, my friend, before jumping into a conversation. It will benefit you greatly.
Thank you, and goodnight.
RE: What's up, Kainers?! - Ahzoh - 07-21-2016
Do you... actually know what they discuss in congress every day? It's never "how can we effectively study gun control methods?"
I'm not going to say guns are evil or should be outright banned, but entertain the thought: with less guns in people's hands, the more certain people have to use more difficult weapon. It is easy to kill people with guns, not as easy to kill people with axes and knives, trucks and explosives. But of course, paranoia is a common illness in America where they believe the government will go total Hitler on them and they'll need their guns. So I'll give them that. But at the end of the day, when gun control methods can't be scientifically studied, it's all speculation.
I've never even heard Hillary's speeches, I'm primarily a Bernie supporter, but, as I am a skeptic, I haven't read much that proves she is a criminal. Rather, I feel it is a good job of character assassination by the right. Making a big fuss over emails that I recall seeing an article about the FBI saying they were not marked (marked what?) as well as another article where the FBI sent confidential emails to HER personal email.
Do not give me the bullshit of the past. Throughout the life of the U.S., the Republicans nd Democrats have done several 180 degree twists. But forever and always it was the conservatives and traditionalists that wanted to keep slaves and saw the black man as lesser and the progressives and forward-thinkers who wanted to free the slaves and saw them more as equals, within their own times, of course. It is hard to resist the thinking of the times, even as a forward-thinker. Conservative is, by definition, conserving the status quo, while Progressive is changing the status quo, neither position is necessarily always good or bad.
I don't care if the liberal lady invented abortions to get rid of black people (I doubt she discovered or invented it), not everyone is perfect and abortions end up being good for a lot of people.
Hillary has gone on to adopt a good number of Bernie's platform.
Ignorance is not bliss, you're right, but, Lani, it is not a good idea being a pot and calling the kettle black, if you understand what that means. You're literally sitting here telling me that Trump is not a fascist when he calls for, ironically, more government (who's gonna build the wall and deport all those mexicans?), more military, and advocates for violence. The guy who actually wrote his book, Tony Schwartz, who studied him for 18 months (longer than any of you) is calling him a sociopath.
There are red flags and you're not SEEING them.
His supporters are even more crazy, some of them want to hang her and kill her.
So, yeah, YOU should go do research and educate yourself, I'm well-informed enough about our potential end of America.
RE: What's up, Kainers?! - Bounty Hunter Lani - 07-21-2016
Where did you read the emails weren't marked?
She used an illegal, unsecure server she wasn't supposed to have, which is, again, illegal, and she sent classified emails with the server she wasn't supposed to have, and lied about it constantly.
I'm not gonna argue with someone who doesn't listen to facts, and diverts attention to strawmen. Buh bye.
And Kain, I'm hoping to hear what you're up to now! I'm sure you've had some super-exhausting adventures and the like
RE: What's up, Kainers?! - Ahzoh - 07-21-2016
http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/07/07/state-department-declares-fbi-director-was-wrong-about-clintons-emails-they-were-not-marked/
Not only that but the FBI have been investigating her several times and yet she hasn't been charged with anything.
For how long must a dead horse be beaten?
Regardless... I do not like her, but she can't be worse than Trump.
Just read Umberto Eco's outlining of what makes a fascist and you will see Trump fits most of them:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism#Umberto_Eco
(07-21-2016, 04:32 PM)Bounty Hunter Lani Wrote: I'm not gonna argue with someone who doesn't listen to facts, and diverts attention to strawmen. Buh bye.Oh, the IRONY.
RE: What's up, Kainers?! - Bounty Hunter Lani - 07-21-2016
Kain's thread has taken an awesome turn!
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Oh, and by the way, Bipartisan Report is a satirical/fake news site.
Just letting you know.
RE: What's up, Kainers?! - Ahzoh - 07-21-2016
Satirical/fake news site? Yea, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on that.
http://review.easycounter.com/bipartisanreport.com
Satire =/= fake, just letting you know. It's not The Onion.
But if that's not enough, you could, you know, read the actual FBI report, unless you think they're "in on it".
RE: What's up, Kainers?! - Bounty Hunter Lani - 07-21-2016
That site means it's not a risk to your security, or phish for your info, not that it's a real news site.
Stop embarrassing yourself and move on. This isn't your thread to be desperate to prove yourself on, it's Kain's thread for his happenings. You've been hijacking it with your falsehoods and your obvious attitude for arguing, and it's really quite sad at this point.
RE: What's up, Kainers?! - Ahzoh - 07-21-2016
(07-21-2016, 06:24 PM)Bounty Hunter Lani Wrote: That site means it's not a risk to your security, or phish for your info, not that it's a real news site.This is Kain's thread where political discussion has been hapenning, I'm only contributing.
Stop embarrassing yourself and move on. This isn't your thread to be desperate to prove yourself on, it's Kain's thread for his happenings. You've been hijacking it with your falsehoods and your obvious attitude for arguing, and it's really quite sad at this point.
Stop.Fucking.Bullshitting.Lani.
Ok, I misinterpreted what it meant by fraudulent, but Bipartisan Report is not a fake news site and you have no evidence to proof this. Falsehoods, projection much? Who, in this present discussion, has backed up their arguments? Me, not you.
Everything that disagrees with you is fake/lie. Case closed.
RE: What's up, Kainers?! - Bounty Hunter Lani - 07-21-2016
Stop with the personal attacks.
Stop with the crazy swearing.
Stop with your lies.
I backed up my arguments, and you've done nothing but link to fraudulent sites to try to prove your point, and ignoring everything I put out.
I have better things to do than speak to someone who reads satire sites for news.
And on that note, I report your post and take my leave. I'll let the moderators handle you.