Login

DerVVulfman · (This post was last modified: 05-19-2017, 04:21 AM by DerVVulfman.)

Class Stat Bonus System
by Shinami
V 1.2
May 20, 2007

This is a locked, single-post thread from Creation Asylum. Archived here to prevent its loss.
No support is given. If you are the owner of the thread, please contact administration.

It didn't occur to me to post v1.1 here before when I released it about a month ago. Hopefully I posted this in the right area. If this is in the wrong section of the forums, then I apologize. This was made to help keep some form of realism to a character's stats in a project that allows the changing of classes. It makes no sense for a Warrior to change to a Mage and retain their high fighting stats while having low magic stats. This script requires a beginner's level of RGSS knowledge concerning scenes,if you use a class changer script, and knowledge about how the case syntax works.

Changes over v1.0 & v1.1

Quoting SECTION 2 of the script notes.

Code:
#~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

#SECTION 2:Changes made to each version - CMTEV

#~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#============================================================

#CHANGES IN v1.2

#============================================================

#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#CHANGE #1:

#The Interpreter class changing method was slightly altered to process the removal and addition of

#class bonuses. I can't believe I didn't think of doing this before!

#

#CHANGE #2:

#Various bits of the notes were changed to accomodate CHANGE #1 so people who read the notes

#wouldn't get confused.

#

#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#============================================================

#CHANGES IN v1.1

#============================================================

#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#CHANGE #1:

#The method add_ex_class_bonus has been renamed to ex_class_bonus for the simple reason

#that the method used to remove bonuses and such no longer exists, leaving the old name to

#be misleading.

#

#CHANGE #2:

#The method ex_class_bonus has been changed to handle the adding and removing of class bonuses.

#For a full break down of how ex_class_bonus works now, read SECTION 4.

#

#CHANGE #3:

#The method remove_ex_class_bonus was completely removed.

#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#============================================================

#CHANGES IN v1.0

#============================================================

#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#The original release version. I didn't like the original structure of the script so I released a v1.1

#fixing the issues I had with the script. You should find this script to be a bit easier to use now.

How to use this script

Insert this script above Main and below the rest of the scripts. Quoting SECTION 3-5 of the script notes to explain how to use this script to the fullest of it's potential. There's almost 200 lines of pure notes going into great detail of how to use this script and how this script works. Please read them.

Code:
#++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

#SECTION 3:Setting up the class database - SUTCB

#++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

#

#You will have to set up the method ex_class_bonus as follows

# Let's say you want to use an equation to return 16% of an actor's attribute.

#You would use the following formula.

#

#((actors stat syntax * 1.0) * 0.16)

#

#List of actor stat syntax:

#Agility:           actor.agi

#Dexterity:        actor.dex

#Max Hp:          actor.maxhp

#Max Sp:           actor.maxsp

#Strength:         actor.str

#Intelligence:     actor.int

#

#Something to note about decimals in RGSS:

#You need the 0. because RGSS does not automatically add the zero to decimals without a zero at the

#front of them. It causes funny things to happen when you forget the zero in your decimals.

#Also, I have setup two default settings for class IDs 1 and 2 as examples for you.

#

#The method add_ex_class_bonus  has been renamed to ex_class bonus and is located at line 317.

#

#The method remove_ex_class_bonus is removed and no longer usable.

#

#

#$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

#SECTION 4:Class bonus changing tutorial - CBCT

#$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

#Now to show you how to setup an event to remove an actor's bonus, change their class, and add the

#bonuses from the new class. We'll use the default database and Arshes(default party) as an example

#by changing his class and bonuses from Fighter to Lancer. Read along while doing this to ensure you

#know how to remove and add bonuses if at any point in the story you want an actor's class and/or

#bonuses to be changed.

#

#STEP 1:

#Use the Change Class event command to change a character's class to whatever class you want.

#

#Done! Everything is now handled internally by the scripting whenever the classes are changed through

#event commands.

The purpose of this script

Screenshots

Demo

Compatibility issues

The script

Code:
#============================================================

#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#============================================================

#Class name: Game_Ex

#Class version 1.2.0

#Created on 4-22-2007

#Last updated: 3-18-2008

#refer to $game_ex for methods stored within this class.

#

#TABLE OF CONTENTS:

#SECTION 1:Compability and other issues - CAOI

#SECTION 2:Changes made to each version - CMTEV

#SECTION 3:Setting up the class database - SUTCB

#SECTION 4:Class bonus changing tutorial - CBCT

#SECTION 5:Method names and their functions - MNATF

#SECTION 6:Final notes concerning the script - FNCTS

#

#To quick jump to a section, use the capital letters by the section name.

#

#-------()=======================================================>

#SECTION 1:Compability and other issues - CAOI

#-------()=======================================================>

#First things first...BACK UP YOUR PROJECT BEFORE USING THIS SCRIPT!!! This will ensure no work

#is lost if something goes wrong. How do you back up your project? Make a game disk. In the event

#this script DOES cause a major error in your project even AFTER it has been removed from the

#project, then you will have the back up game disk to fall back on. Simply have the game disk

#overwrite your projects directory.

#

#This script corrupts your old save games because it saves new data in the save game files.

#

#This script has 3% chance of being incompatible with SDK but has not been tested with SDK.

#

#This script has a 10% chance of being incompatible with other scripts that alter or otherwise change

#the Game_Actor class. This involves scripts that add new attributes, change existing attributes, or

#otherwise alter character data.

#

#This script has a 5% of being incompatible with other scripts that alter or otherwise change the way

#a project saves or loads data. I have taken a measure to prevent incompatibilities but the chance

#is still there.

#

#CLASSES ALTERED:

#Interpreter - Changing the actor's class with event commands will now trigger defined changes.

#Scene_Title - Creates $game_ex to be used similar to the other class global variables.

#Scene_Save - Stores $game_ex data in the save file of a project.

#Scene_Load - Loads $game_ex data from a save file for continued usage.

#~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

#SECTION 2:Changes made to each version - CMTEV

#~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#============================================================

#CHANGES IN v1.2

#============================================================

#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#CHANGE #1:

#The Interpreter class changing method was slightly altered to process the removal and addition of

#class bonuses. I can't believe I didn't think of doing this before!

#

#CHANGE #2:

#Various bits of the notes were changed to accomodate CHANGE #1 so people who read the notes

#wouldn't get confused.

#

#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#============================================================

#CHANGES IN v1.1

#============================================================

#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#CHANGE #1:

#The method add_ex_class_bonus has been renamed to ex_class_bonus for the simple reason

#that the method used to remove bonuses and such no longer exists, leaving the old name to

#be misleading.

#

#CHANGE #2:

#The method ex_class_bonus has been changed to handle the adding and removing of class bonuses.

#For a full break down of how ex_class_bonus works now, read SECTION 4.

#

#CHANGE #3:

#The method remove_ex_class_bonus was completely removed.

#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#============================================================

#CHANGES IN v1.0

#============================================================

#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#The original release version. I didn't like the original structure of the script so I released a v1.1

#fixing the issues I had with the script. You should find this script to be a bit easier to use now.

#++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

#SECTION 3:Setting up the class database - SUTCB

#++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

#

#You will have to set up the method ex_class_bonus as follows

# Let's say you want to use an equation to return 16% of an actor's attribute.

#You would use the following formula.

#

#((actors stat syntax * 1.0) * 0.16)

#

#List of actor stat syntax:

#Agility:           actor.agi

#Dexterity:        actor.dex

#Max Hp:          actor.maxhp

#Max Sp:           actor.maxsp

#Strength:         actor.str

#Intelligence:     actor.int

#

#Something to note about decimals in RGSS:

#You need the 0. because RGSS does not automatically add the zero to decimals without a zero at the

#front of them. It causes funny things to happen when you forget the zero in your decimals.

#Also, I have setup two default settings for class IDs 1 and 2 as examples for you.

#

#The method add_ex_class_bonus  has been renamed to ex_class bonus and is located at line 317.

#

#The method remove_ex_class_bonus is removed and no longer usable.

#

#

#$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

#SECTION 4:Class bonus changing tutorial - CBCT

#$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

#Now to show you how to setup an event to remove an actor's bonus, change their class, and add the

#bonuses from the new class. We'll use the default database and Arshes(default party) as an example

#by changing his class and bonuses from Fighter to Lancer. Read along while doing this to ensure you

#know how to remove and add bonuses if at any point in the story you want an actor's class and/or

#bonuses to be changed.

#

#STEP 1:

#Use the Change Class event command to change a character's class to whatever class you want.

#

#Done! Everything is now handled internally by the scripting whenever the classes are changed through

#event commands.

#

#

#*******************************************************************************

*

#SECTION 5:Method names and their functions - MNATF

#*******************************************************************************

*

#Alphabetical listing of methods, their fuctions within Game_Ex, and arguments to be passed along

#to said methods.

#

#  add_ex_class_bonus(class_id, actor_id)

#    RENAMED TO ex_class_bonus IN v1.1

#

#  ex_class_bonus(class_id, actor_id, bonus)

#    class_id - The actor's current class id in the database

#    actor_id - Id of the actor who's stats are being modified by Game_Ex.

#    bonus - Set as true if you are applying a set of new "bonuses". Set as false if you're removing the "bonuses".

#    -Shinami-

#    I use $data_actors instead of $game_actors for the class_id argument.

#    Without the use of $data_actors, for unknown reasons I am unable to

#    call the player's class id.  Not exactly efficient but it works.

#    

#    -processing notes-

#    This method functions through the use of a case based on the value of

#    $data_actors[actor's id].class_id passed on as an argument during the calling

#    of the method. Pass off the actor's ID and class ID for proper addition of class

#    bonuses and/or penalties.

#

#  base_class

#    No arguments passed on. Purpose is to store the starting class of each actor.

#    This allows the project team to have the ability to give a character their own

#    unique class that only they can use.

#    -Shinami-

#    This method is still in early developement. May be subject to change.

#    Currently, this method serves no purpose in the original script written by me.

#    

#    -processing notes-

#    The sole purpose of this method is to store the actor's starting class for the reason

#    that in future updates, a class changing scene may be made to handle the changing

#    of each character's class while using their starting class as a "base" class that is unique

#    to that actor alone but still allowing an actor access to other classes as conditions are met.

#    Currently, this method serves no purpose.

#

#  remove_bonus(class_id, actor_id)

#    METHOD WAS REMOVED FOR INEFFICENCIES IN v1.1

#+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

#SECTION 6:Questions and final notes concerning the script - FNCTS

#+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

#More questions will be added as they are asked while others are simply questions I've had numerous

#times with other people's scripts. If you get an error while messing around with this script, read the

#questions here to see if one answers your problem.

#

#Question 1

#What the hell is with the screwy ASCII art crap things around the section names?

#

#Answer

#That's just to denote you're at the start/end of a section. I could have just not included ANY notes

#at all though so just put up with it. Hell, I did! XD =^-^= I'm a sword fanatic though...hence the

#crappy sword thingy at SECTION 1.

#

#Question 2

#I don't understand how to use this script. How do I use it?

#

#Answer

#Just PM me on the forum at http://rmrk.net/index.php/board,25.0.html

#I'm busy with a FFT Class Changing/Skill System at the moment though so I won't be responding

#immediatly. While you wait for my response, you can read the notes while experimenting with the

#script. Seriously though, asking this after someone took the time to note out how everything works

#will piss a few people off but I'm nice and don't bite, unless you have cookies, so ask away. ^_^

#

#Question 3

#I want to learn scripting. Where did you learn?

#

#Answer

#I didn't learn from just one place. Actually, I learned by experimenting with dozens of scripts as well

#as taking script requests to further sharpen my skills. I remember the first CMS I did...horribly done

#when I look back at it but the sense of pride I felt when I completed my first request was enough to

#keep me learning how to script so that I could take more than just CMS requests.

#

#Question 4

#What the hell is a syntax? You lost me there in the questions below!

#

#Answer

#A syntax is something used in any sort of programming language to do special things. Inside the

#RGSS editor, RGSS syntax such as if, and, else, class etc. appear in blue to denote they are syntax.

#

#Question 5

#The script isn't working! It keeps crashing and taking me to a line in ex_class_bonus! I did everything

#right!!! What's wrong?!

#

#Answer

#What you most likely forgot was to put a zero in your decimals. If they're put in like this, .08, it'll

#cause an error. You MUST have a zero before your decimals or the script WILL crash. Like I said

#before, if you forget the zero at the front of your decimals, you'll encounter some strange things.

#

#Question 6

#I get this wierd error that takes me to the start of a "when" syntax thingy! What's wrong?!

#

#Answer

#Quite simple. You might have forgotten an "end" syntax to close off an "if" syntax.

#

#Question 7

#I want to release a modified version of this script with my own changes. Can I do that?

#

#Answer

#Under four conditions I will allow this.

#Condition 1: You CAN NOT charge for this script in any way, fashion, or form! If you see someone

#charging for this script, e-mail me at shinami576@hotmail.com and I WILL put an end to it. Making

#people sign up for your forums to view this script is fine though because lurkers suck.

#Lurker - People who take scripts, graphics, etc. from forums without contributing to a forum's

#community.

#

#Condition 2: You MUST have my permission to post a modified version of this script. I like knowing

#where my works are posted so that I can provide troubleshooting for people who use my scripts. You

#can contact me at shinami576@hotmail.com or malinko576@yahoo.com. My yahoo address is really

#bugged at the moment with tons of junk mail so there is a better chance of you reaching me at my

#hotmail address

#

#Condition 3: You MUST give credit to EVERYONE who has lent a hand in altering this work. People

#get this warm little glow inside that makes them feel good when they see their name in a list of credits.

#

#Condition 4: If you changed anything, you MUST include a full set of notes detailing EVERYTHING you

#changed and how each method inside your version release works. This means having a section

#detailing how to use the script, how the methods work internally, and what role each method's

#arguments play in the script. For a good idea how to do this, look at SECTION 6. You must also

#include a compatibility section that clearly states possible and/or known incompatibilities with the

#script. This helps people that read to keep from screwing up their project.

#

#Question 8

#Why do I need to fulfill those four conditions you just mentioned? They're such a pain in the ass.

#

#Answer

#People won't pay for scripts but people in this world will always try to make a quick buck or two off of

#people who don't know any better. It's called being naive.

#Also, I like knowing where my works are posted so I can provide support for said scripts. It really

#sucks when you find an awesome script on some obscure site but can't find anyone to provide help

#for it when you have questions about it or how to make it work.

#Again, people like seeing their name in a credits list because they worked hard on something you

#used. Also, it's proper etiqute(sp?) to credit people who contributed to your project, just like you see

#tons of names in the credits of a movie. Although in the movies, it's law to credit everyone who did

#had a hand in the making of the movie...or so I think? Regardless, you get my point.

#Finally, I feel it is proper programming etiqute(sp?) to note out EVERY THING in a project, script, or

#program so that others who look at your work can see how you did the things you did and possibly

#learn new things from your programming methods.

#

#

#These are the only questions that I can think of now that'll most likely come up. I'm sure I'll be adding

#to them though! ^_^

#

#===========================================================

#----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#===========================================================

#===========================================================

#----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#===========================================================

#Class name: Game_Ex

#Class version 1.0.0

#Last updated: 4-22-2007

#The class which holds the coding that makes everything possible.

#===========================================================

#----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#===========================================================

class Game_Ex

  def initialize

    for i in 1...$data_actors.size

      setup(i)

    end#of "for"

  end#of initialize

  def setup(actor_id)

    actor = $data_actors[actor_id]

    @class_id = actor.class_id

    ex_class_bonus(@class_id, actor_id, true)

    base_class

  end#of setup

  def base_class

    @base_class = @class_id

    return @base_class

  end#of base_class

  def ex_class_bonus(class_id, actor_id, bonus)#(actor's class id, actor's id, true if giving bonuses and false if removing bonuses)

    actor = $game_actors[actor_id]

    case class_id #$data_actors & class_id uses the ID numbering you see in the database.

    when 1#Class ID #1 Default database:Fighter

      ex_class_bonus_hp = ((actor.base_maxhp * 1.0) * 0.2) #20% bonus

      ex_class_bonus_sp = ((actor.base_maxsp * 1.0) * 0.25) #25% penalty

      ex_class_bonus_str = ((actor.base_str * 1.0) * 0.4) #40% bonus

      ex_class_bonus_dex = ((actor.base_dex * 1.0) * 0.3) #30% penalty

      ex_class_bonus_agi = ((actor.base_agi * 1.0) * 0.3) #30% penalty

      ex_class_bonus_int = ((actor.base_int * 1.0) * 0.16) #16% bonus

      if bonus#This is the branch part that adds the "bonuses" from a class

        actor.maxhp += ex_class_bonus_hp#If you subtracted from a stat in the other branch

        actor.maxsp -= ex_class_bonus_sp#then you'll add to that stat in this branch.

        actor.str += ex_class_bonus_str

        actor.dex -= ex_class_bonus_dex

        actor.agi -= ex_class_bonus_agi

        actor.int += ex_class_bonus_int

      elsif bonus == false#This is the branch part that removes the "bonuses" from a class

        actor.maxhp -= ex_class_bonus_hp#If you added to a stat in the other branch

        actor.maxsp += ex_class_bonus_sp#then you'll subtract from that stat in this branch.

        actor.str -= ex_class_bonus_str

        actor.dex += ex_class_bonus_dex

        actor.agi += ex_class_bonus_agi

        actor.int -= ex_class_bonus_int

      end#of "if"

      return

    when 2#Class ID #2 Default database:Lancer

      ex_class_bonus_hp = ((actor.base_maxhp * 1.0) * 0.16) #16% penalty

      ex_class_bonus_sp = ((actor.base_maxsp * 1.0) * 0.33) #33% bonus

      ex_class_bonus_str = ((actor.base_str * 1.0) * 0.3) #30% penalty

      ex_class_bonus_dex = ((actor.base_dex * 1.0) * 0.19) #19% bonus

      ex_class_bonus_agi = ((actor.base_agi * 1.0) * 0.3) #30% bonus

      ex_class_bonus_int = ((actor.base_int * 1.0) * 0.16) #16% bonus

      if bonus

        actor.maxhp -= ex_class_bonus_hp

        actor.maxsp += ex_class_bonus_sp

        actor.str -= ex_class_bonus_str

        actor.dex += ex_class_bonus_dex

        actor.agi += ex_class_bonus_agi

        actor.int += ex_class_bonus_int

      elsif bonus == false

        actor.maxhp += ex_class_bonus_hp

        actor.maxsp -= ex_class_bonus_sp

        actor.str += ex_class_bonus_str

        actor.dex -= ex_class_bonus_dex

        actor.agi -= ex_class_bonus_agi

        actor.int -= ex_class_bonus_int

      end#of "if"

      return

    end#of "case class_id"

  end#of "ex_class_bonus"

end#of class

#===========================================================

#----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#===========================================================

#Class name: Interpreter

#Class version 1.0.0

#Last updated: 3-18-2008

#Causes the actor's stats to be changed to the scripted settings.

#===========================================================

#----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#===========================================================

class Interpreter

  #--------------------------------------------------------------------------

  # * Change Actor Class

  #--------------------------------------------------------------------------

  def command_321

    # Get actor

    actor = $game_actors[@parameters[0]]

    # Change class

    if actor != nil

      $game_ex.ex_class_bonus(actor.class_id,actor.id,false)

      actor.class_id = @parameters[1]

      $game_ex.ex_class_bonus(actor.class_id,actor.id,true)

    end#of "if actor != nil"

    # Continue

    return true

  end#of "def command_321"

end#of class

#===========================================================

#----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#===========================================================

#Class name: Scene_Title

#Class version 1.0.0

#Last updated: 4-22-2007

#When starting a new game, the Game_Ex class is initialized.

#===========================================================

#----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#===========================================================

class Scene_Title

  alias command_new_game_with_ex command_new_game

  def command_new_game

    command_new_game_with_ex

    $game_ex = Game_Ex.new

  end#of command_new_game

end#of class

#===========================================================

#----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#===========================================================

#Class name: Scene_Load

#Class version 1.0.0

#Last updated: 4-22-2007

#When loading the game, the Game_Ex class data is also loaded from inside the save file.

#===========================================================

#----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#===========================================================

class Scene_Load

  alias read_ex_save_data read_save_data

  def read_save_data(file)

    read_ex_save_data(file)

    $game_ex = Marshal.load(file)

  end#of read_save_data

end#of class

#===========================================================

#----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#===========================================================

#Class name: Scene_Save

#Class version 1.0.0

#Last updated: 4-22-2007

#When saving the game, the Game_Ex class data is also stored inside the save file.

#===========================================================

#----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#===========================================================

class Scene_Save

  alias write_ex_save_data write_save_data

  def write_save_data(file)

    write_ex_save_data(file)

    Marshal.dump($game_ex, file)

  end#of write_save_data

end#of class

Credits

Final notes

Login
Username:
Password:	Lost Password?
	Remember me

Possibly Related Threads…
Thread		Author	Replies	Views	Last Post
	Looting System	Thieffer	0	2,642	06-18-2009, 01:00 PM Last Post: Thieffer
	Legacy Class Change	legacyblade	0	2,815	08-26-2008, 01:00 PM Last Post: legacyblade
	Unique Class Commands	vinardo	0	2,877	07-17-2008, 01:00 PM Last Post: vinardo
	Difficulity Level System	Ekhart	0	2,638	03-14-2008, 01:00 PM Last Post: Ekhart
	Dragon Quest VII Class Changing System	Sephirothtds	0	2,761	11-15-2007, 01:00 PM Last Post: Sephirothtds
	Map Stats and Info System	Dubealex	0	2,798	10-19-2007, 01:00 PM Last Post: Dubealex
	Spell Tablet System	GubiD	0	2,894	08-25-2007, 01:00 PM Last Post: GubiD
	Orb Based Skill System	El Conductor	0	2,603	07-29-2007, 01:00 PM Last Post: El Conductor
	Party Deleting System	Ekhart	0	2,641	07-05-2007, 01:00 PM Last Post: Ekhart
	MATERIA SYSTEM with AP	illustrationism	0	2,889	05-06-2007, 01:00 PM Last Post: illustrationism