Sterilization

[tnsi]

Immigration is not bad for the economy- Outsourcing, however, is bad for the economy in a long-term sense. Outsourcing has the immediate effect of liberating individuals from a comfortable standard of living based upon income, into a situation where they may have to rely on welfare or tricking the welfare system.

This falls back in buprettyinpink's view that there women are constantly producing children in order to continue to make use of the welfare system. People wouldn't really get into this as much if they had access to work.

My views heavily revolved around the lack of work, because that is precisely what I experience, living in Michigan, where outsourcing pretty much wiped the floor with our economy. Car plants moving overseas means that companies that specialize in producing components for cars, companies that once made components and sold those to major car companies, also outsource or close down.

Back to the economy: Outsourcing creates a trickle-out effect. The United States imports much more than it exports. Even though manufacturing jobs outside of the United States are extremely cost efficient, that money is still leaving. The main cause of this stems from individuals who are "unwilling to work in a job that doesn't pay well", yet are demanding reasonable prices. In order to pay individuals well, the company needs to increase prices on things it sells, which makes it harder for individuals to purchase the goods without asking for better pay...etc. etc. rinse. repeat. After a while, WHOA, what is this? Prices are decent, but no one has jobs.

There's a problem in what you're saying Cocoa. You're saying that immigration of poorer populations is bad for the economy I think...?
If so then I strongly disagree and history is my example. Our populations never cease to get older (less young people, more old people for those who didn't get it) and that work force, which is willing to do less satisfactory jobs for less money has been a huge benefit for western civilisation. How do you think China's getting so rich now? It's because the people are so much more willing to work. We are simply lazy. I know I am. My first job will earn me around 30 000$ (teaching) but I'm unwilling to work in a job that doesn't pay well. I'm a typical westerner but I'm proud of the fact that we are able to mingle.

Now, back to sterilization, yes I agree, forcing it on people is fascist and extreme.

The root of the problem lies not within the people. Sterilization solves nothing, since we don't attack the -reason- why individuals might be becoming baby factories. As long as you only attack the effects, it'll continue. Thus, in consideration of the point that we want to deal with humans, what we really need to implement is eugenics.

Being able to freely breed is pretty problematic, no? You'll get all sorts of inbreeding and neglected young. Considering that, why don't we implement an eugenic method of dealing with breeding? I completely agree with the idea for a mandatory child permit, but I feel that such a matter is too weak. I think that the more effective option is to have a mandatory breeding permit. This will make individuals less likely to engage in sex, for pleasure or profit, without making use of proper precautionary tools, or as an alternative, make individuals less likely to have sex at all. Maybe then, America will stop breeding like rabbits.

An eugenic breeding permit would help control the development of humanity as well, and prevent undesirable conditions from tainting the population. Imagine! No AIDS. In addition to the eugenic factor, we should also probably have a certification process that says, "Yes, the individuals here are capable of responsibly breeding and caring for a child.", so one needs to be certified as a parent as well. And we don't even have to worry about people not liking it- They're obviously enemies of mankind's future development if they hate on it. That, and they probably have genetic flaws or a disease they pass down easily.