What's up, Kainers?!

[Ahzoh]

Steve Bannon, an actual factual fascist, is going to be appointed as Chief Strategist by Donald Trump, a neo-fascist.
And ever since this has been revealed, all the neo-nazis and white nationalists have gotten emboldened. I've seen some articles about people getting attacked by these people and I've seen signs, both online and personally within the city I live in, calling for neo-nazis and white-nationalists to group together and organize or recruiting people.

Now I see this article about how Stormfront is getting excited about this prospect:
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/stormfr...1789008594

Also this is related, regarding hypernormalisation, a term I think people should be made aware of:
https://thoughtmaybe.com/hypernormalisation/

But yea, Trump is totally not going to bring the Fourth Reich and he's gonna make America Great Again™. Yes, what I said was rather hyperbolic.

[Kain Nobel]

If Steve Bannon is such an anti-Semite Nazi scumbag, I have a hard time believing that an Israeli diplomat would be glad to meet with him, considering they're a majority Jewish nation. Not only that, the left is trying to paint everything that threatens their power structure as "racist".

You know how they keep saying Steve Bannon is a Nazi, right? Oh, but forget the fact that George Soros actually is a willing Nazi collaborator and is still alive today trying to Balkanize every place he steps foot in. Here's a video where he'll tell you all about how he put Jews in camps, helped the Nazi's steal their property, and how he grew up to become an economic hitman, crashing economies and giving zero fucks. Certainly a guy who likes to start "color revolutions" can't be racist... right?

This isn't BuzzFeed or Alex Jones, this is HIM telling YOU all about how HE feels about the world. Go on. Click it. Watch the whole thing in its entirety. Don't skip parts. It's informative. You'll learn something.

"In the last two years you've been blamed for the financial collapse of Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Japan and Russia," the interviewer states.
"I cannot and do not care about the social consequences of what I do," admits Mr. Soros.

This guy creates the problem and tries to act like some savior, like he's doing people a favor.

Mr. Soros is funding the Nazi uprising in Ukraine. In this case, they are the far right. They clash with police and government officials. They're more than willing to slaughter unarmed men, women and children.

In the case of the U.S., the ones attacking civilians, police, businesses and government officials are the far left. These people rally behind crooked Hillary Clinton and Bernie "free college" sell out Sanders. They believe Barack Obama brought them an economic recovery. Feast your eyes upon them as they peacefully protest and act non-racist.





I enjoy watching them burn their own cities down. Pretty soon business owners will leave these areas and these people will be broke with NO jobs and shall eventually suffer from starvation and a lack of medical supplies. Not too long afterward, these same people will be kissing Donald Trump's ass, begging for a place to work and something to eat. They can't blame him for wrecking their cities, they did it to themselves!

He did promise to uplift the very inner cities that are protesting; I'm thinking he should break that promise and let them rot now.



Sooner or later, the U.N. or National Guard (whoever is willing) will be putting these people under martial law and placing them in FEMA camps - or, as Hillary Clinton likes to call them, "fun camps". These places were designed especially with them in mind, long ago. Without them rioting and freaking the hell out, they would have no purpose, no trigger to activate the camps. They'll be sold out by their so called "saviors" and they'll use their own tax money against them, to enslave and execute them.

The ever-rolling "Ferguson" effect has been the crowning achievement of the Obama presidency. It is only fitting they prop up a corrupt and evil corpse of an old woman as their next savior. She is everything she has ever claimed against anyone else, times ten.

[Ahzoh]

Yes, you somehow managed to shift the topic of Steve Bannon to a rant about the Democrats. Nice one. Who cares about the Democrats? They didn't win and they're not the ones emboldening white nationalists and neo-nazis.

You probably cannot imagine that's it's possible to be anti-Semitic yet pro-Israel. It's a seeming contradiction, but this is actually a thing.
I actually found this article that might explain how it might be possible: http://forward.com/news/israel/354402/ho...itic-at-t/

But, it doesn't matter whether Steve Bannon is a nazi or not (but I do think he is), that's not the point. The point is that he's EMBOLDENING nazis who think he's a good thing. I don't know if you actually read the article that I linked you to but even the nazis are unsure whether he's a nazi or not and also ask the same questions of his support for Israel but at the end of the day STILL favour him.

EDIT: also that last video comes from a channel that thinks UFOLOGY is a valid field and cites Alex Jones within the video itself. From its other videos I can just tell it's another channel dedicated to pseudoscientific bullshit and conspiracy theories.

"the left is trying to paint everything that threatens their power structure as "racist""
Rightwing hyperbole and a misrepresentation.

"In the case of the U.S., the ones attacking civilians, police, businesses and government officials are the far left."
No, I do not believe this is actually the case.

[DerVVulfman]

"In the case of the U.S., the ones attacking civilians, police, businesses and government officials are the far left."
No, I do not believe this is actually the case.

Fact:  During his 8 years in office, Bush was involved with bombing operations with 4 countries.   However, during his 8 years in office, Obama had been involved with bombing operations with 7 countries. 

"the left is trying to paint everything that threatens their power structure as "racist""
Rightwing hyperbole and a misrepresentation.

You are so wrong.  First off, let me remind you that Kainers already posted a link about CNN's current plight of racial discrimination.

And I see that you will not accept any news media from any source other than your left-wing propaganda engine.  Anything from a source other than liberal media is trash to you.  So why not hit you up with something that used media from your 'Young Turks' channels instead?

The video presented below is from an Asian fellow who explains how it is the liberals in charge who have no problem accepting members of the KKK into their midst, and attempted to smear the political campaign of Donald Trump with false allegations while staging fake KKK members at one of his rallies.   Let me point out that the photographic evidence shown is in fact from the Young Turks.  I personally went to their channel to find the video and I will confirm its authenticity.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqm4EzilgHU

So please explain how the Young Turks, a liberal site, can be considered truthful when they are reporting that black men are members of the Klu Klux Klan at a Trump rally.  The footage at time marker 7:30 in the video is fully apparent and is 100% staged.  If you want to face who the racists are, just look at the liberals in charge.

And insofar as the honesty of the liberal media, please enjoy this.  When a Veteran presented Donald Trump a Purple Heart, the media reported the award as a fake.  It came from MSNBC and spread out through all other liberal media sources.  But the Veteran came out and blasted all of them as liars, denouncing them as it was his real purple heart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D19lqY07hoc

[Kain Nobel]

Ahzoh, you have such a closed minded world view. It's like anything the television has told you MUST be true, and anything that isn't represented by a large multinational corporation is tin foil hat conspiracy land. They're calling the BREXIT a racist move too, but those British folks know they're getting a screw job. The European Union must collapse into the dustbin of history, the costs outweigh the benefits of this system and it's dragging the European countries down. How's Greece? How's Germany? How's France? How's Latvia? How's Italy? It's not good. You'd have to be a special kind of stupid to stay in the EU at this point unless you like constant austerity and non-representative government.

I don't know much of Alex Jones pre-2014, except for his 9/11 era which he predicted would happen months prior, but almost everything he's said these past two years has either been dead on or eventually happened just as he said it most likely would. Sure, he might've had one or two predictions that didn't come true at that time, but said predictions weren't exactly out of the realm of possibility and probability. He was talking about how the secret service and other government insiders kept telling him that Hillary Clinton is sick, has a brain injury and has had seizures, can't stand up for more than 30 mins, is driven around in a modified jet black ambulance, etc. Things like that I took with a grain of salt...

...but he was correct, 100%. Now here is Rachael Maddow trying to do damage control and tell people they're stupid for thinking Clinton has a "graaaaaave health crisis."

Oh no, I must disavow Trump, he was endorsed by a Black Panthers member...

In all honesty, I don't care who endorses him, it's a free country. Obama was endorsed by the Huey P Newton Gun Club, which some labeled a black hate group - didn't bother me. He wasn't running for President of the Huey P Newton Gun Club, he was running as President of the United States; any and every citizen, regardless of identity politics, could and probably did vote for Obama, even whites.

So no, I'm not going to change my mind because of some "he said, she said" bullshit, or some claim that so-n-so is a Nazi or so-n-so is... whatever. I'm not scared of the Nazi's, the KKK, Black Panthers, Black Lies Matter, La Raza or any of it. I don't care who they voted for, I don't care what they think, I only care what I know and what I think. It doesn't change my mind on Hillary Clinton either; she need a no holds barred investigation, prosecution and prison sentence for all that she's done.

You can champion her all you want. To her, you're probably nothing but another Haitian.

Hillary Clinton is the real con artist and a devout racist, sexist, anti-American pig. Don't forget her color revolution in Libya prior to the fall of Ghadaffi either; it wasn't Donald's doing. It wasn't Steve Bannon's doing. Jeff Sessions didn't do it. SHE DID! When you know what's what, there is absolutely NOTHING moral about voting for Hillary Clinton, the secretary of hell.

Yes, I'm for Trump. I'm not racist and I'm not sorry either. He's not perfect but he's got more dignity than the rest of the bozos that ran for president. It's too bad Jesus Christ or Mohammad or whoever your savior is wasn't running this year. Keep listening to the lies on the television, these news anchors are no better than multi-millionaire televangelist preachers.

These memes explain the game the way it is played perfectly. The best thing about them is they're short and quick so even the low information folks can understand them.





So... if I was a Liberal right now, I'd probably ban you and call you a racist. I'm not though, and I enjoy these debates. It is getting old though so maybe I'll just leave and you can claim you were correct while you keep living in your world of grand delusions.

[Ahzoh]

The most important thing that should be taken away from here is:
Liberals =/= left
Me =/= Liberal
I'm an anti-capitalist and leaning towards anarcho-communism, so I don't support liberalism or Democrats.

The most annoying thing that you guys do is take my arguments and find some way to change the topic of the arguments towards fucking liberals and Democrats! Ragging on them doesn't make your position any better!
I'm not talking about liberals or Democrats here (they're their own brand of stupid), I'm talking about Steve Bannon and the rise of nazism and white nationalism since you guys like to act like nothing but good will come out of a Trump presidency.

Fact:  During his 8 years in office, Bush was involved with bombing operations with 4 countries.
However, during his 8 years in office, Obama had been involved with bombing operations with 7 countries.

Cool story, Obama has nothing to do with what was said as he is a neoliberal not a far-leftist. The Democrats are not far-left, they're neoliberals. If you actually think Democrats and neoliberals are "far-left" or even "left" then you actually don't know what a far-leftist is.

As far as my sourcing goes, I find only centrist news or news from actually far-left media (e.g. libcom.org, maoistrebelnews.com, etc.) and certain other sites like Snopes or Patheos. I don't find rightwing OR liberal news to be very reliable, especially mainstream news.
Additionally I don't watch TV, the things they tell you on TV is capitalist propoganda and distraction from real issues. I laugh when people think I'm not a skeptic.

And when I say a news source is nothing but pseudoscience and conspiracy theory bullshit I MEAN IT.
I checked your source regarding FEMA, I watched the video, it's conspiracy theory bullshit. I mean, I wouldn't put it past the American government to try to stop their government from being completely dismantled, but that's only to protect the interests of the capitalists who fund them not because "ermagherd Libruhls are evuhl an wanna take muh freedums".

It is getting old though

Yea, gets old debating with people who actually believe most of everything Alex Jones says and doesn't think it's alt-right noise. It's like those people who watch Fox News all day.

[DerVVulfman]

The most important thing that should be taken away from here is:
Liberals =/= left
Me =/= Liberal
I'm an anti-capitalist and leaning towards anarcho-communism, so I don't support liberalism or Democrats.

In your world, maybe. In reality, when you have one side you must have another... an opposite. If you have stark white, you have pitch black. And if you have a left, you have a right. So making that claim that the liberals aren't leftist is innane. It is just that the liberal party is changing their mentality towards a more socialist/communist ideal.

And regarding your politics, you appear very much like George Soros who is literally responsible for many of the calamities in the world. He was fully responsible for destroying England's economy on Black Wednesday. He was classified as an economic war criminal in 1997 for causing the '97 Asian Financial Crisis. In no way do I trust anyone who banks on that.

The most annoying thing that you guys do is take my arguments and find some way to change the topic of the arguments towards fucking liberals and Democrats!

Seriously? Having a link in your post that describes what red herring means? You must be furious that I pointed out the fallacy of your arguments with actual video evidence. You wished to make claim about racism and I pointed out how the media itself is the one spreading those lies. And again, I used media that included liberal site footage as an example.

I'm not talking about liberals or Democrats here (they're their own brand of stupid), I'm talking about Steve Bannon and the rise of nazism and white nationalism since you guys like to act like nothing but good will come out of a Trump presidency.

Again, you wish to bring up the notion of Bannon being a Nazi, yet fail to accept that a major contributor to Trump's opposition is a self-proclaimed Nazi. And again, I am bringing up George Soros.

Cool story, Obama has nothing to do with what was said as he is a neoliberal not a far-leftist. The Democrats are not far-left, they're neoliberals. If you actually think Democrats and neoliberals are "far-left" or even "left" then you actually don't know what a far-leftist is.

Nice... saying 'Cool story' as if to say it's not backed up.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/barack-obam...es/208748/
(You can check the source. Mint Press is left-biased.)

And again regarding the democrats bot being far-left, I covered that. That the liberal party of Democrats have changed into Democratic Socialists doesn't change the fact that they are still on the opposing side of the U.S. Poliitical Spectrum of the Republican Party. I guess from your viewpoint, the left and the right cannot change their politics or their viewpoint. But if one is on the left side of the US Political Spectrum and the other is on the Right of the Political Spectrum, they remain on the opposite sides regardless of one side's change of ideals. There could be a 'centralist' party, but only if they were a hybridization of the two, meeting somewhere in the middleground.

As far as sourcing goes, it is also getting old when someone wishes to use such sources as Deadspin.com. On the otherhand, you may not be aware of the source's politics. Um, dude.... Your site, launched in 2005, is owned by UNIVISION??? ROFL. How about that for an agenda. HOWEVER... ThoughtMaybe.com has been ranked legit, safe for kids, trustworthy and safe according to sites like SiteAdvisor and MyWOT. Yes, I check these.

So while your article on hypernormalization would be fine, your article from a UniVision owned source is rather untrustworthy. Afterall, Univision is clearly in line with the rest of the media who wishes to fabricate material such as the Liberal KKK video I posted, the interview with George Soros, the contemptable riots formed in protest after the election, and more. You say you don't watch TV. I understand that it is very much propaganda as most of the media outlets are pushing the 'Democratic Socialist' agenda (happy I didn't call them liberals?). But you cannot deny actual video footage of those harmed within Haiti, the hateful riots formed in the name of Liberalism (yet no protests formed in 2008 in the name of Conservatives), and that the media has contempt for anyone standing up for our country.

BUT...

Kain? WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT FEMA VIDEO? I'm with Ahzoh on that. Add faces when posting those.

[Kain Nobel]

I've just returned from the future. I brought this back with me.



Yes, it's all true, this is your future. Hahahaha!

...but you can stop it! :O

[Ahzoh]

I too just came from the future.