Legalizing Prostitution?

[cosmickitty]

Just a thought....

If America is so broke why don't we just legalize drugs and prostitution and profit from the taxes?

(besides the fact that the government is controlled by uppity prudes?)

I was at a lecture the other day about texas history. In part of the the lecture the professor mentioned that waco, tx used to have legalized prostitution in the 1800s and it brought in $30,000 a year. One dollar in 1800 is roughly $25 today, so that's $750,000 in taxes without taking into account population growth.... seems like a no brainer to me....

[MagitekElite]

I don't think legalizing drugs or prostitution will help any. Legalizing things like drugs is a bad idea, I think, because it be easier to sell to children, or for children to a hold of it. We'd have more much deaths (over-doses, crashes done to being high etc).

It seems like, if it helps our money issue, it would in turn just create more problems.

[cosmickitty]

Milton Friedman, economist, says that the criminalization of certain drugs undermines respect for the law and creates "a decadent moral climate." He states that legalizing drugs like marijuana and cocaine would "thus strike a double blow; reduce crime activity directly, and at the same time increase the efficacy of law enforcement and crime prevention.

think about how alcohol was used and perceived during prohibition v. how it's viewed now. Legalizing these drugs can help regulate an epidemic that is already here. I've never used hard drugs in my life, and yet, if I chose to I can probably think of 10 different ways to get it. It's there and isn't going away, so why not control it and, as my original point, profit from it.

[DerVVulfman]

The "Volstead Act" which ushered in the era of Prohibition turned alcohol from a sedative laden beverage into an illegal drug and ushered in an era where criminals made tons of money and had record levels of violence for their day. It was repealed by the Blaine act due to pressure by all the crime associated and the social acceptance of alcohol, let alone another institution for the regulation of alcohol was made.

Social acceptance of prostitution? Er, Vegas.

Certain drugs like Marijuana, pending. Other drugs? Heck no. But if they DO legalize marijuana and regulate it, it could cause one HELLUVA problem for the drug lords..

[RosyPosy]

I don't think legalizing drugs or prostitution will help any. Legalizing things like drugs is a bad idea, I think, because it be easier to sell to children, or for children to a hold of it. We'd have more much deaths (over-doses, crashes done to being high etc).

thats a fallacy. The same points were rung up during prohibition but the reality is that simply being a responsible person is the difference here.With legalization comes moderation which is why these things arent legal. Theres no way to secure appropriate means to building a new system that these things would need. Theyd be tireless messing with regulation and of course plenty of money. right or wrong these things dont affect Politics .Money though, specially with the reality of Republican talking points, wouldnt be something you could talk of.

[MagitekElite]

I don't think legalizing drugs or prostitution will help any. Legalizing things like drugs is a bad idea, I think, because it be easier to sell to children, or for children to a hold of it. We'd have more much deaths (over-doses, crashes done to being high etc).

thats a fallacy. The same points were rung up during prohibition but the reality is that simply being a responsible person is the difference here.With legalization comes moderation which is why these things arent legal. Theres no way to secure appropriate means to building a new system that these things would need. Theyd be tireless messing with regulation and of course plenty of money. right or wrong these things dont affect Politics .Money though, specially with the reality of Republican talking points, wouldnt be something you could talk of.

Stating its a fallacy doesn't make it so. Oh you think being responsible yourself will stop others from abusing it? You could be responsible about it, but others won't. Just look at what's moderated right now. Doesn't seem to work now, what in the world makes you think it will work legalized? Moderation is applied to alcohol, but look at all the death and problems that follows that. Moderation is applied to guns and gun safety, but look what good that does. Moderation is applied to cigarettes, but look at all the good that does. Moderation is done to nearly everything we have legal now and it still causes us lots of problems.

Moderation alone will not keep these things from harming others, or causing problems with the country in whole. Maybe legalizing marijuana could help that situation a bit, but it wouldn't be long until that caused a problem just as bad if not worse, than the previous.

If it was legalized, drug sellers would be pushing all their trade into America, making it even easier to grab a hold of drugs at a younger age. If it happens now on a big scale, what do you think would happen if it was legalized? It would be worse.

[RosyPosy]

I don't think legalizing drugs or prostitution will help any. Legalizing things like drugs is a bad idea, I think, because it be easier to sell to children, or for children to a hold of it. We'd have more much deaths (over-doses, crashes done to being high etc).

thats a fallacy. The same points were rung up during prohibition but the reality is that simply being a responsible person is the difference here.With legalization comes moderation which is why these things arent legal. Theres no way to secure appropriate means to building a new system that these things would need. Theyd be tireless messing with regulation and of course plenty of money. right or wrong these things dont affect Politics .Money though, specially with the reality of Republican talking points, wouldnt be something you could talk of.

Stating its a fallacy doesn't make it so. Oh you think being responsible yourself will stop others from abusing it? You could be responsible about it, but others won't. Just look at what's moderated right now. Doesn't seem to work now, what in the world makes you think it will work legalized? Moderation is applied to alcohol, but look at all the death and problems that follows that. Moderation is applied to guns and gun safety, but look what good that does. Moderation is applied to cigarettes, but look at all the good that does. Moderation is done to nearly everything we have legal now and it still causes us lots of problems.

Moderation alone will not keep these things from harming others, or causing problems with the country in whole. Maybe legalizing marijuana could help that situation a bit, but it wouldn't be long until that caused a problem just as bad if not worse, than the previous.

If it was legalized, drug sellers would be pushing all their trade into America, making it even easier to grab a hold of drugs at a younger age. If it happens now on a big scale, what do you think would happen if it was legalized? It would be worse.

It is a fallacy cause the effect of being legal or being illegal is 0.what stops murder from happening?(nothing) the law doesnt prevent anything, it takes action against it. Drugs and prostitution are already regulated and legal( in different forms but still) Prescription pills are legal and are abused, People are more likely to die from legal substances like Bleach simply cause that is the nature of stupid human foolishness.theres nothing consistent stopping people from being stupid. and there is no evidence that itd be worse legalized then criminalized, In fact history holds all the talking points pro-drug legalization will bring up. there is no such historical reference for the opposite effect.

and again such things should always be subject to a standard of intelligence.
just because people are stupid doesnt mean we should hold it from them.
in this case the question is basically irrelevant. All people who venture to gain money will do so anyway they can criminal or not.same thing applied here.

Just as a note Unless you can justify a moral or practical reason for criminalization theres lil going for this issue. It truly doesnt matter cause it will fix nothing just shift there territories.the reason im on the legalization side is because I find no reason morally to shift Marijuana to an organization we can atleast regulate via the FDA. as opposed to the Gangs in mexico.

as for prostitution :again better to be regulated, and perhaps unions and the like will be needed there.
unless you like the criminalized version of prostitution Which RUINs girls lives in america. they get no Help whatso ever and are nearly punished for being used.

but to explain the reason why is cause our government Wont do those things regardless of how we feel.Money and regulations and politics get in the way.

[RosyPosy]

and there is no evidence that itd be worse legalized then criminalized, In fact history holds all the talking points pro-drug legalization will bring up. there is no such historical reference for the opposite effect.

Actually, if I may comment on this bit. I posted this link to the effects of drug legalization in other countries and in countries that never had legalization, it's something that doesn't come up very often since when we think of drug legalization we instantly think that the countries are better off, but in many cases it hasn't been as successful as planned, so if we were to legalize drugs we would need a better enforcement plan. Because we both know society, there are a lot of reckless people, they cannot go ignored as they affect others as well.

very true and thats why ours wont do anything, It costs money and requires them to shift their focus.Any republican would attack that movement.(unless of course it was republican plan backed by a business already interested in that)

However treating people like kids, will grant you full grown kids.this is why a steady intelligence standard should be in play.after all how free does our land sound if we cant be trusted to smoke or fuck responsibly.Free and stupid is a natural bad idea.

and people shouldnt be so quick to jump on this issue.as it literally wont stop criminal activity nor protect women from abusive sex cultures. Being on the side of criminilization though insinuates we shouldnt do a thing. but sorry the true way to fix this problem is simply harder then just legalizing it.

step one: Legalize it ;Shifting sales from Gangs to corporations makes it regulatory ,eases the tax on law enforcement to catch dangerous drug dealers/pimps, and stops the trend of Corporate jails using all those prisoners for slave labor.(which they have been, since most of our incarcerated are in for drug related crimes.A story I heard 3 days ago; man convicted life in prison no parole for Two Marijuana ciggerettes and the slightest dash of cocaine.)

step two: regulation ; Regulations should include standards for environment(where they can sell), Age limits and consumption levels(just like alcohol) Like smoking,business would be allowed to reject the substance from the area.and finally plenty of health requirements for prostitutes(similar to those that should be on Porn actors)


step 3:(Raise the education system for the love of my lovely lips!!

Step4:(do this any way): stop treating prostitutes like they did something wrong!there is 0 compassion for prostitutes in the eyes of the law.And they cant do anything outside sending them home.if they have on still.


-but as ussual that requires work money and anti-corruptionists (none of which our government is willing to do or be.

[RosyPosy]

yes but restrictive measures are corrosive. in a perfect world everyone would know what to do. but because of the nature of this issue, you have to use your judgment. Is it wrong to get high? is it wrong to sell yourself? after all the moral question is more important.

People abuse things this is always true.The law is there to punish and limit immoral actions.
When you start speaking based off someone else s irresponsibility, Just about anything could be illigal by those standards.

which is why the right thing to do is regulate and adapt to country with those things in them.
eventualy humans might even see how silly they are and stop abusing them.But that cant be done by denying them. especially the way we deny them now.Regardless doing nothing is useless, Either better the law within the fact of being illegal or without it. Neither way is easier .

[RosyPosy]

That's a straw man, I never said it was wrong to get high, nor sell yourself, those are subjective moralities.

What I did say is that the legalization of drugs and prostitution do have bad side effects when legalized, as mentioned in my previous post.

You dot need to say it, Because side effects alone are not a good reason for making things illegal.
You have to question the moral efforts of whether your willing to put these people in with real Criminals instead of finding alternate paths.I really dont care if its legal or not, but change is an absolute.

Based on its moral content i cannot justify making it illegal.
thus why should it be? thats the only reason why it being illegal doesnt make sense.

Either way handeling of these issues needs to be corrected, cause obviously society cannot simply make it legal nor make it illegal without efforts to help.your damned if you do, damned if you dont.

Weighing Irresponsibility with irresponsibility makes it 0.in other words...it doesnt matter.
people are irreversibly irresponsible. and trust me, being illegal doesnt help a damn.
It just shifts the forces. it will always get into kids hands...there will always be violence related to selling, and you cant avoid the unseen. The references youve shown can be explained by the lack of needing to lie or hide it.

my final word on this issue is pretty obvious actually.
Whats worse? the immoral or incompetent?

Ultimately our answer of that one question decides which side we favor.